Faith and Certainty
A common defense of religious conviction is the use of the conviction itself as a defense. “It’s part of my faith.” “I take God’s existence on faith and that’s all I need.” “At some point you just have to have faith that God exists.” What does faith mean in a religious conversation and does it differ from what it means in other conversations?
Does faith that gravity will keep you rooted to the earth mean the same thing as faith in the existence of God? No. The faith that you won’t fly off the earth is a belief based on the incontrovertible evidence of the effects of gravity. Because of your knowledge of the laws of gravity and based on experiential evidence that so far, with each step you’ve taken, you’ve not flown off the earth, you are certain that you won’t fly off the earth with your next step. It’s akin to saying that you have faith that the sun will rise tomorrow morning. What if the possibility existed, no matter how great the odds, that at some point in your life gravity takes a holiday sending you spinning into space. If you knew that possibility existed, could you still say that you had faith that you wouldn’t fly off the earth with your next step? It would be related to saying “The odds that with my next step gravity will take a holiday are so great that I’m not really worried about it.” Certainly you wouldn’t say that if the odds were 50-50. Even at the astronomical odds of it happening you might say you have faith that it won’t happen, yet may not be willing to say that you were certain it would. In this case, the difference between faith and certainty would be the existence of the aberration in the law. Without the aberration you could be certain. With the possibility for the aberration, you could still have faith that your next step will be into that mud puddle, but you couldn’t be certain.
So, does that mean that certainty and faith are different? I think clearly they must be. By most common uses of both words, if you’re certain of something, faith isn’t necessary and if you have faith in something, certainty isn’t possible. For example, what sense is it to say “I’m certain the sun will set tomorrow, I have faith in it”? Having faith that the end of the day will happen seems to be a weakening of the certainty that it will—as though you’d never seen a sunset happen and that lack of evidence would throw the certainty into some realm of doubt. In this use, faith would have some measure of doubt inherent that wouldn’t be there with certainty.
However, some might say that their faith is all the certainty they need, essentially saying that their certainty is grounded in their faith. This seems to me a rather queer thing to say, but let’s look at the defining phrase, “all the certainty they need.” This seems to imply that the degree of certainty here is something less than, say, the certainty that your name is what it is. The certainty allowed by the faith is “good enough for them,” as though there’s good enough certainty, better certainty and best certainty. That’s understandable. We all do that sort of probability calculus with certainty all the time. We often say, “I’m fairly certain that . . .” to mean that the odds of something happening in our estimation are pretty high. It’s a statement of confidence.
Is it a misuse of the word “certain”? Of course not. Does the certainty in this use mean the same as the certainty that 1+1=2? Not at all. We often use the word as a sort of emphasis. We know the strength of certainty that the addition tables are immutable. When that lesson is learned it’s a certainty for us. There can be no doubt. So when we use the same word in a context in which there could be doubt but we assess the probability that something else may happen as very low, the use of “certain” becomes a signpost for what probability we’ve attached to what we’re talking about. Once again, though, I don’t believe this is the meaning those of faith would admit to when saying that they are certain in their faith.
In order for their faith in God’s existence to be meaningful, for their certainty that there is a God, those who profess it must believe that their faith and certainty are beyond doubt. Others may doubt, but for them it is a certainty—no less certain than that the sun will set and that 1+1=2. This, I’d submit, isn’t false, it’s meaningless.
First, imagine if I said, “I’m certain that 1+1=2, but John doesn’t believe it.” Now imagine me saying, “With recent discoveries I’m certain that there’s life on other planets, but John doesn’t believe it.” Is the first sentence the sort that the theists would say is closest to their certainty in God’s existence? Does John’s disbelieve make sense? Not really. The fact of the matter is that 1+1=2 and for someone to say that John doesn’t believe it is just another way of saying that either John hasn’t learned his addition tables or John is mentally incompetent. Imagine changing the statement just slightly to “I was certain that 1+1=2, but I don’t believe it now.” This absolutely doesn’t make sense. But, if we exchange “1+1=2” with “God exists,” it suddenly becomes very meaningful supported by numerous instances of that very thing happening.
What’s different? Obviously something about the nature of the certainty changed. In the one case, losing certainty made no sense, while in the other, it made perfect sense (passing no judgment on the speaker). The certainty means something different between these two statements. What’s different is that in the second statement, “I was certain that God exists, but I don’t believe it now,” the possibility that the essence of the subject could change was inherent in the use of the word “certain.” In other words, the certainty entailed an embedded probability that was later determined to be inordinately high. That’s not possible in the former use of “certain” with the addition sample.
The point of all this was to say that when a person says that their faith makes them certain, what they’re really saying is that their faith establishes for them a high probability that what they’re claiming is actually the case. Inherent in it is the possibility, for them a very low and perhaps unknown probability, that what they’re claiming could be wrong. It’s an unintended agnosticism.
More to follow.
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I've come to this conclusion a while ago, but was never able to trace back the thought process like this. I'd get so frustrated that most people are so afraid of admitting even the idea that religion could, itself, raise doubt in the traditional idea of God. It's kind of an ironic eureka moment to understand that the immutable certainty that is claimed actually hides the very doubt they would never admit.
Interestingly enough though, at the heart of Christianity is a recommendation to shed security, leave yourself vulnerable and heart-breakingly honest. And it is said that there is no reason to fear it, and that the truth will set you free.
But to make my second point clearer...that is not what faith is really supposed to be about. Jesus constantly says for us to "be not afraid." Don't act out of fear. Let go. Enter into the uncertainty, the insecurity. You fight it because you fear it, so stop fighting, because there is nothing to fear. And then you actually participate in the process of self-transformation and growth, rather than forcing your own development into stagnation. True faith means heading into the unknown and the dangerous and the painful, and going to the places in your mind and in your heart that scare you, trusting the process. Trusting "God."
To me, the question of the existence of God is a rather meaningless one. It seems to be people going in circles arguing that their anthropomorphic *idea* of God *is* the heart of reality, or that it isn't. It's just a concept; it does not accord with reality except by analogy. :)
All of religion with its elaborate cosmologies and metaphysics is, in my opinion, supposed to be a brilliant allegory for our lives and how we might live them most genuinely and most honestly. When you view all the religious myths this way (as spiritual allegory) rather than take them as historical fact...all of a sudden they become much more powerful and a million times more relevant.
In a similar way, I think that comparing a math equation to the statement "God exists" is problematic. The equation exists in a logical structure outside of a linguistic system. 1 + 1 = 2 even if these symbols or words "one," "two," and "equals" do not exist. As you've said in previous posts, "God exists" is trapped within its own signification. Both the term "god" and "exist" rely upon a self-supporting system of meaning that prevents it from existing in some transcendent capital-M Meaning.
So, ironically (for someone outside of the faith-system, at least), the absolutism of faith (I don't mean this politically, per se, just absolute right or wrong) is dependent upon its existence within a wholly arbitrary linguistic system. (Of course, you've said all of this before, but it's fun to repeat what other people say.)
A "certainty" would indicate a 1.0 probability (100% chance) of something happening or being true.
A "certainty" would indicate a 1.0 probability (100% chance) of something happening or being true. Someone might be willing to accept some probability less than that and still say that they were "certain", and the interesting thing to examine is...how much below, and why?
Regardless, this assumes that those probabilities can be measured or reasonably assessed. If one can control the environment, the variables...essentially design the experiment...then one can measure the outcomes and probabilities. Even clearly defining the parameters and measuring the occurrences can provide hard evidence. In fact, this is how much of our understanding of the world around us (especially in the realm of modern physics) has evolved.
History does not lend itself tp this approach. Much like the vote of a jury, subjective opinions are formed, and the nod is given to the "preponderance of the evidence", or even "beyond a reasonable doubt" if the issue is especially important/critical.
Examining a supernatural phenomenon is more like history than physics. By definition, a supernatural phenomenon is "outside" our current understanding (or ability to understand) the natural world using the tools/ideas currently available. If such events/phenomena aren't repeatable (as historical events are not), they don't lend themselves to examination using the scientific method. One must examine the contextual cues, the supporting evidence, etc. and make a subjective call.
I can't be certain that the Trojan War occurred, but it is certainly possible within the natural laws that I know to exist in the world, and there is sufficient evidence from "The Illiad" for me to believe that at least something of the kind must have occurred. I can't be certain (in terms of "knowing as a true fact") that Christ lived, was crucified, and rose from the grave) either; there is a much greater body of textual and archaeological evidence pointing to the existence of Christ than to the Trojan War, but the supernatural nature of the events in his life don't seem possible given the natural laws as I know them. ...cognitive dissonance...!
Faith then, asserts that "I believe this to be true" when I can't possibly prove whether it is (or is not!) true. I have faith that the Trojan War occurred. I have faith that Christ lived, died, and rose from the dead. The former doesn't seem to be an act of faith because we can envision it happening within our frame of reference...but it is!! The latter seems to be an act of faith because it relies on believing something to be possible that we can't explain...something we might call "miracles".
I guarantee moon landings, aircraft, pain-free dental surgery, electric lights, *blogs*!!!, and a host of other things would be considered "miracles" to pre-Industrial Revolution (or certainly, pre-Renaissance) people...and belief in them would constitute faith of the highest order.
The key difference, of course, is that those things may not have been understood by people of an earlier era, but they were UNDERSTANDABLE...i.e, within human comprehension. The belief in an Almighty Creator forever *outside* the universe and everything in it implies that we can NEVER truly understand/explain/rationalize Him...and this is the essence of faith...that non-repeatable "historical" miracles, in conjunction with the very creation around us, give hints but no proof, and we can never expect to gain that proof while we are still bound to this universe. Ultimately, we either have faith that God exists, even though we have no way to prove this true, or we have faith that God does NOT exist, even though we have no way to prove this true EITHER!
As an aside, the Christian faith asserts that God DID give us means to know Him, at least as much as we can given our human limitations, by direct intervention, inspiration of prophets to write his holy word, and by the sending of his Son (the very essence of Divinity) into the universe in a real, physically present way.
Very interesting. First of all, I think we’re in agreement that the term ‘certainty’ can mean a wide range of things. My Master’s thesis, had I finished it, was going to be on how a probability calculus could be applied to epistemology. What made it so difficult was that the meaning of words, statements of knowledge, change from context to context, person to person. And you’re absolutely right, the real interesting question is how do we get to the point where we say that the probability of X is 0.7 so it can’t be certainty while the probability of Y is 0.71 and it can be considered to be certain. So, as you point out, being certain that light travels at 186,000 miles per second means something different than being certain that there was a Peloponnesian War. Yet, someone could say that they’re not so certain that light travels at 186,000 miles per second and that could be a perfectly meaningful statement. ‘Certainty’ morphs between being a statement on the strength of evidence and a statement on the strength of belief.
But at some point, even the use of ‘certainty’ as a statement of belief fall flat. Take for example the statement, “I’m certain that gravity will hold me to the ground.” Stop and think about hearing this sentence being spoken. You’d think the speaker was making a joke or something. It’s so universally accepted that to state it as a serious statement really makes no sense in any context other than as a joke. Now imagine someone saying, “I’m certain there is a supreme being called God.” This seems to make perfect sense. I could easily imagine someone saying that. Why? Epistemology is fascinating stuff.
Before I get back to the central issue, you talked about the Trojan War and the life of Christ and cited that your belief in those “historical” events was the evidence found in the Iliad and the Bible. Homer also talks of supernatural beings, the Cyclops and Hydra for instance. Can we claim to know them like we know the Trojan War? I don’t think so. We have no evidence that anything like those existed in the past except that Homer talked about them, that and some paintings and such. They have no comparable basis in our present reality so we discount them as fiction. They’re supernatural. So, there are many things in the Bible that fall into the same category. God parting the Red Sea, Jesus walking on water and raising the dead, etc. These are things that have no basis in our current reality. That’s why we call them miracles. How is it that these events are accorded a higher status, miracles vs. myth, than those supernatural events in the Iliad?
Now, to the crux of the matter—faith as a state of knowledge about something that’s fundamentally unprovable. Faith seems to be one of those chameleon words. It can mean whatever we want it to. You pointed out that we have faith in some things partially based on the evidence that’s available and yet we don’t expect in our lifetimes to be presented with compelling evidence to elevate the faith to knowledge. That’s interesting. We can have faith of something in the future—I have faith the stock market will recover—and that’s based on the full expectation that at some point the evidence will show the faith grounded or ungrounded. Or, as you mentioned, we could have faith in something entirely incapable of ever being explained or proved. It just so happens that this particular sort of faith wants its adherents to forego any semblance of doubt whatsoever. So, the justification for faith in the first instance is the existence of some evidence that leads us to believe something. When you ask someone if there’s any possibility for doubt, they would likely say, “Sure, but I believe it more than I doubt it.” In the second instance, faith is more like a gamble. You’re betting on an outcome and some evidence will determine that outcome. In the third case, you, yourself, admit that there is nothing within the realms of evidence that can justify the faith. Instead, the faith is based on inferences taken from various sources. You know the status of inference in logic. My question for you is, how did you come to have this faith? Not how do you justify it now, what was its genesis and how did it grow to where it is now.
What I’m now getting interested in is the genealogy of religion—religious anthropology if you will. Religion, religious thought, is a largely linguistic endeavor. Religion doesn’t spread without proselytizing and proselytizing doesn’t happen without language. Let’s assume for a minute that there was one person, let’s call her Lucy, who first had the idea there was a supreme being. She convinces someone who convinces someone and so on and so on until we’re where we are today. Along the way, people change the notion of the supreme being that Lucy started based on their contexts and needs until today’s concept is nearly nothing like the original idea Lucy had. What allows that to happen? What’s to say our idea is any better than Lucy’s.
Enough for now.
Well, maybe tomorrow.
45 minutes?!?!? Holy cow!
OK. I'll look for it tomorrow after work.
You sound Wittgenstinian Brad. Let me think about it today and I'll have some comments this afternoon.